If it happens again

Posted: October 29, 2012 in Fridge Note


From MoveOn and Michael Moore.  Oh, pearls will be clutched and fainting couches called for, Oh yes.
“Right in the nutsack”  hee hee hee.

 

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  1. Another Kiwi says:

    I like them old folks. “We’re going to burn this motherfucker down”

  2. Whale Chowder says:

    Dear me, that’s very un-civil. Very.

  3. Landru says:

    I fear elderly people. What if they decide I’m a fucking Republican?

  4. My opinion of Chris Christie has inched up from it’s bottom-of-the-sewer status.

    “I have a job to do,” he added. “I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.”

    President Obama and Chris Christie (!) acting statesmanlike, treating a disaster seriously and effectively. Willard Romney and Steve Doocy, only considering it in terms of political opportunism.

    Over at The Political Environment, the House Troll tried to take me to task for saying that Willard was hoping for this disaster to be Obama’s Katrina; and subsequently I also said that Romney and Ryan are looking for people to suffer for political gain. MORE; I said the bastards actually ENJOY people suffering.

    Romney is an amoral monster. For no reason, he fucked with disaster recovery efforts in Massachusetts. As I said to that Twit Reagan’s Disciple, why should I not come to the conclusion that he is a savage, conscienceless, sadistic caricature of a man?

  5. Nick says:

    Not to fear, not to fear old people. Today, Paul Ryan is in La Crosse collecting canned goods for all the folks on the east coast who have no power to cook with and, in many cases, no houses left to cook it in. That should about do it. No need for Federal intervention, no need for FEMA or the National Guard or the Coast Guard or any of that extravagance. Canned goods from La Crosse. Ryan has GOT this.

    For the record, I do not believe Romney actually enjoys the suffering of others. I think it likely he takes a certain satisfaction in it, has a certain sense that they deserve what they get and he, by extension, deserves everything he gets, but I doubt he actually enjoys it. Of course, if there was a large voting block that could be convinced to vote for him by his stating he enjoys the suffering of others, he would certainly SAY he enjoyed their suffering (insert Tea Party jokes here). Because we do know for certain that Schrodinger’s Candidate will say anything, anywhere at any time if he believes it will help him get elected President.

  6. I do not believe Romney actually enjoys the suffering of others. I think it likely he takes a certain satisfaction in it, has a certain sense that they deserve what they get and he, by extension, deserves everything he gets,

    I’m not sure I see the distinction, and of course neither of us can read his mind; but listen to him when he talks about jettisoning the 47% moochers, or his delight in being able to fire people. THAT’S what he liked about being MOTU at Bain. I begin to suspect it is what is driving him to seek the Presidency.

    I do agree that I think he believes that the suffering of others justifies his good fortune and verifies that he is Gawd’s Favorite. The enjoyment is just icing on the incredibly expensive cake.

    Also, yeah, the TeaPublican sect is largely predicated on making other people hurt.

    Wow, I never thought I would hate a politician more than Dubya.

  7. MOAR about Willard Romney’s utter apathy when it comes to helping others during disasters.

    It’s like a compulsion, or else, as I have been saying, he gets off on it.

    You know, I originally said it kind of off-handedly, but the more I see about how Willard behaves, I begin to think it’s accurate.

    • Nick says:

      I guess I was looking at the distinction between enjoying something and feeling validated and confirmed in one’s own opinion. Sadists feel actual pleasure watching others suffer. I don’t think Mitt does that (though I could well be wrong– who knows what actually goes on inside PlasticMan’s mind). But I think he, and Ryan for that matter, take a tremendous amount of validation and satisfaction in the fact that they are not poor, and therefore are better than those that are poor. I dunno, a small distinction, and ultimately one that may not matter. The upshot regardless is that both halves of the Republican ticket do not believe the Federal Government has any role to play in disaster prevention or relief. Though I have not one iota of doubt that if Obama and FEMA screw up at all during this event, that R&R will wail to the high heavens about it.

      Side thought– since Ryan is an outspoken fan of Ayn Rand and her approach to society and life, what is doing helping to collect food? We should just let the poor saps help themselves.

      • I guess I was looking at the distinction between enjoying something and feeling validated and confirmed in one’s own opinion

        Prosperity Gospel types all seem to have varying degrees of both. I don’t think they’re exclusive.

        since Ryan is an outspoken fan of Ayn Rand and her approach to society and life, what is doing helping to collect food? We should just let the poor saps help themselves.

        Paul Rayn a lying hypocrite? STOP THE PRESSES!

      • Regarding the Rmoney and RAyn collection shams.

        The Red Cross doesn’t want the stuff, it’s too hard to move quickly and the logistics are MUCH harder to coordinate. Money and Blood, that’s what they want.

        But the Photo Ops are the thing, right? Like after Katrina, when Bush had a background temporarily energized to make it look like the power was back on, and as soon as the cameras were off, so was the power.

  8. mikey says:

    I absolutely hate and am disgusted by Romney more than even the odious GW Bush. Bush was a dick, a certifiable sociopath and the worst kind of coward, but he was all that and more right down to his core. He believed what he said and said what he believed (and the idiot Americans got him close enough to buy the election and then, to prove they have high density concrete for brains, re-elected him even after seeing him in action). Romney is worse in every way, more venal, more willing to do and say ANYTHING, more subject to manipulation (and unlike Bush, he’d KNOW he was being played but would believe he was actually the one doing the playing), less concerned about consequences.

    As to whether or not he ‘enjoys’ hurting people, it’s kind of a moot point. He sees economic issues as a morality play, and therefore any action that makes lazy freeloaders and unworthy slackers suffer is by definition good. The key issue is he doesn’t think at all in terms of THEM – his decisions are made on the basis of HIM and his tribe, and the suffering of others is just another metric to determine the effectiveness of the policies. He can’t feel empathy for them, they are just the “labor market”, and as such, nothing more or less than a fungible commodity.

    • As to whether or not he ‘enjoys’ hurting people, it’s kind of a moot point.

      Yeah, Nick and I both pretty much said that the distinction probably doesn’t matter. I found it intriguing though. Does help explain things like his bullying and treatment of the kids in his family (they’ve been trained to call them ‘pranks’) and Seamus….

      Heck, if we could get video of Rmoney squishing butterflies, even thunder might vote against him!

  9. mikey says:

    We DO, however, need more grannies saying “motherfucker”.

    Because that’s just inherently hilarious…

  10. Landru says:

    My actual favorite is, “Especially if we’re related.”

  11. herr doktor bimler says:

    Watched a Louis Theroux documentary last night where Louis is revisiting the Phelps clan. The sect members explain (at some length) that Yes, they celebrate every death and every disaster, they celebrate genocide, because death is always God’s Judgement, and God’s Will be Done.

    They also think Obama is Antichrist. They’re practically mainstream Republicans.

  12. Nick says:

    Only tangentially related, but it’s the Empire so I’m good, but isn’t it amazing how much ISN’T being said about global warming in the wake of Sandy? Despite the fact that larger than normal, especially destructive storms are EXACTLY what the global warming science says will happen.

    • The anona-trolls over at the Political Environment jumped right in to explain why the constant floods, droughts, and hurricanes have NOTHING AT ALL to do AGW. NOTHING!

      Meanwhile, Scientific American has a cover article explaining, in detail and with evidence, just why the extreme weather patterns are the predictable result, and in fact are going to be the new normal. Any action humankind can do at this point is just going to prevent things from getting even worse.

      In his defense, I suspect Obama has a bit more to think about right now, Romney doesn’t give a shit, the MSM is completely oblivious and unable to parse science or math anyway, and the Greens are more interested in running vanity candidates than actually effecting change. I Do hold a bit of hope that after the emergency is ratcheted down a bit, Obama might take some steps toward acknowledging AGW; kind of like he did with gay marriage.

  13. Wow, I am pretty disdainful of the Republicans today, aren’t I?

    Realistic, some might say.

    Fuck ’em. Whatever America they think they are defending, it’s not the one in this Universe.

  14. These fuckers hassle me next Tuesday, and they will find themselves on the receiving end of a Zombie Boot.

  15. mikey says:

    What I find interesting from a procedural or perhaps a metholological standpoint is how our system seems designed and built to produce sub-optimal outcomes. The only real solution is to raise the costs of carbon pollution – this both reduces carbon pollution and funds the transition to alternatives. But in our system, designed by the best political minds of the seventeenth century, the very feature that defines the solution is quickly redefined as an unacceptable bug – the price of energy and transportation generated by fossil fuels WILL GO UP! OMG! That’s precisely the point, but when the solution is a political impossibility the people in government with some sense of duty to their community have no choice but to pursue sub-optimal solutions. So we need to recognize the success of the Obama administration in getting EPA involved by designating carbon as a pollutant. The anti-AGW crowd actually fucked up, because they would have been in a much better position financially under cap n trade. I’m not much of a believer in a more liberal Obama in his second term, I think we know exactly who and what Obama is, but in this case he doesn’t have to worry so much about fluctuations in the price of gasoline on the micro level and he will likely unleash EPA, at least on coal generation. And that’s good.

    But the upshot is that it’s time to get real. There’s much more to Global Warming than the US – and there’s very little hope of any coordinated or concerted program to reduce carbon pollution. Lots of nations with somewhat less insane political leadership than the US are implementing significant growth in wind and solar generation, but it’s interesting that these are economic and energy independence moves more than anti-global warming progress. But it’s time to quit pretending that there is some kind of international consensus to reduce Global Warming, recognize that the greed interests will win, as they always do until people drag them out of their mansions and hang them from lamp posts, accept that we’re going to see something close to the worst case scenario for warming (or even worse than that), and start developing a secondary mitigation strategy. That includes planning for sea level rise, massive shifts in agricultural productivity, unprecedented weather events and resource wars. The US can’t act effectively. The world can’t act effectively. We’re going to see 5+ degree rise in average temperatures and 3 meter rise in sea level at an absolute minimum, significant acidification and loss of ocean species, and with the carbon to be released from the permafrost and the warming ocean, we’re going to see it sooner than we think.

    The real battle is already over, and humans lost. All we can do is try to survive it…

    • Landru says:

      Wait…three meters? Jim Cantore knee-deep in ocean water in Battery Park every freaking night?

      Jeebus, I’ll never be able to satisfy Ilse (Mrs. Landru) again.

  16. mikey says:

    One things for sure. That mikey’s not afraid of the goddam keyboard..

    Sheesh…

  17. mikey says:

    I have very little in the way of human contact.

    It’s mostly a feature, but it can be a bug…

  18. mikey says:

    Stand by. Gonna catch up on Walking Dead latest episode tonight. I’ll be back at some point before the apocalypse with a few thoughts…

  19. mikey says:

    Don’t do it. You gotta pick one or the other.

    As good an example as exists is The Road. GREAT novel. Pretty damn good movie. But you can’t possibly like them both. You have to pick and stick…

  20. mikey says:

    Hokay, confuzzled am I.

    It makes sense that communities would find themselves being run by madmen, it has always been thus – most of us go along to get along, some are just crazy enough to take charge – but he would be logically interested in adding to the towns population, not mowing down humans with alacrity. Why did the shoot all the new guys but keep the chicks? It would be one thing if they were ruthless bandits of the zompoacalypse and wanted to bang them, but they seem rather hospitable. And what’s with the display case of noggins? Are they his friends? Is it an experiment? How does nobody know he’s a whackjob?

    I do think it’s cool that people are trying to figure out the disease that causes the zombies, and also trying to figure out what, if anything, you can actually DO with a zombie. Obviously, at some point this is going to lead to some kind of “cure” or treatment or something. But I see this entire story arc as one leading to a very large body count season finale…

  21. but he would be logically interested in adding to the towns population, not mowing down humans with alacrity.

    Why? If he has enough people to run the town, adding more just makes it harder to control. He’s got One-Handed Merle, and a couple of other desperados, and he is training up new ones. They have enough to protect the town and run it. Adding more unnecessarily (especially military ones) is more trouble, and if anyone is going to challenge him for supremacy, he clearly believes it will be from the new guys (again, especially military ones). I think that’s why he is pressuring Katana Lady to join; if she buys in, it’s a powerful addition, especially keeping the ladies in line.

    Also, I think he likes mowing people down. Remember the knives to the heads of the helicopter pilots.


    Why did the shoot all the new guys but keep the chicks?

    I think that question answers itself.

    Considering the dangers out beyond the truckwall, it’s obvious that the women consider it worse to hit the bricks. Presuming, of course, it is simple slavish labor and sex that they are being kept for, not violence and savagery. Of course, it seems likely it will eventually degrade to violence and savagery, doesn’t it?

    It would be one thing if they were ruthless bandits of the zompoacalypse and wanted to bang them, but they seem rather hospitable. And what’s with the display case of noggins?

    Who needs a reason to put a couple dozen heads in fish tanks?

    Are they his friends? Is it an experiment? How does nobody know he’s a whackjob?

    I think they do, but ruthless madman, yanno.

    I do think it’s cool that people are trying to figure out the disease that causes the zombies, and also trying to figure out what, if anything, you can actually DO with a zombie.

    I suggest buying one a drink.

    I did like the explanation for the …modifications…Katana Lady did to her zombi-mules though.

    Obviously, at some point this is going to lead to some kind of “cure” or treatment or something.

    Not based on the research I’ve done. Curing zombies is nearly as dangerous as letting them loose.

    But I see this entire story arc as one leading to a very large body count season finale…

    Well, yeah. I wonder if Rick’s Prison will be as effective at keeping the bad guys OUT as it used to be at keeping them IN.

  22. mikey says:

    Megalomaniacs always seek to expand their Empire. Napoleon coulda stopped at Belgium, but, more subjects, more taxes, more trade, more wealth. And he really doesn’t have enough people – I think they said it was less than a hundred. Unless they only care to survive for a couple years, simple attrition will require them to grow to about ten times that. Not to mention the diversity of skills they’d require to operate a town. They have electricity, running water, sanitation, armaments, construction projects, medical care, food production – Nope. He’s a crappy megalomaniac if he’s not bringing in and indoctrinating new recruits.

Go ahead, tell me how I fucked up this time.

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